Last Week’s Discussion:
Gender Double Standards
Last week’s discussion was inspired by remarks compiled from prior discussions. While the discussions were focusing mainly on females, the discussioners kept turning the tables back to men and the stereotypes that surround them. So, I brought it to the table: both genders, varying stereotypes in literature. Let’s see what they had to say:
Simon said:
“One thing I will say is that there are these days both dominant and submissive women out there that are equally happy in their roles, as well as the others in between. It’s the same with men, but with writing and stories surely it’s not just about stereotypes, but it’s the story in the writers mind and we both know that as writers we exaggerate everything to make it more interesting?”
J. R. Handley said:
“I just write what feels ‘right’ for the story and hope the readers concur at the end. For me that means more balanced personalities that strike me as how people would react to things. No stereotypical tropes to ruin things. I try to ensure that they’d act as close to what we’d call ‘normal’ as their situation dictates.”
Carla Louise said:
“[…] this kind of made me think a lot about The Hunger Games and the differences between Peta and Gale. […] Peta was never anything but honest, kind and caring. And Katniss perceived him to be weak – she mentions it so many times. However, his honesty, his kindness, his ability to care, his selflessness … he was better than everyone. “
It was indicated by the discussioners that male-stereotypes are just as common as female-stereotypes, but are far more over-looked. Therefore, it’s important to remember to discuss them, as well. Only then will writers notice and make adjustments.
Also, the reason we, the readers, notice these imbalances in personality representation is because they don’t fit the story. They stand out like sore thumbs. In that sense, writers need to not only show more representation, but stop trying so hard to match the stereotype and just write what works for the story. Odds are, it will pay off in the long run. P.s. If it doesn’t feel right, it’s probably not.
Check out this week’s discussion on Thursday at 10am EST:
Loving the Villain
Excellent conclusions! Can’t fix problems until you admit that they are problems…. Wow, that sounds a wee too self helpish for my normal style!
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I wouldn’t have found these conclusions without your help, JR. Thank you for participating and hope you join again! ^.^
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Aww shucks, now I’m blushing!
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Hi Melanie – thanks for including me in this too! :-))))
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Thank you for participating in the discussion, Simon! Everyone who participates in my discussions will be included in the highlights. ^.^
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Great stuff Melanie, I’ll make sure I try and keep on participating ☺
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Is it wrong that I genuinely get excited when I realise I’m included!? I’m sure there’s so many people you could feature, but I’ve been included in this three times now, and it just makes me feel so excited when you’ve quoted me, like you really value my opinion!! I know it’s silly, but it makes me feel really special and it means a lot to me that you like what I’ve said! Even though I went on a random tangent about Peeta … but still!!!
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Nope!! I was too, probably why the three of us responded first!! LOL!!
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Haha! I’m so happy you get excited about being highlighted, Carla. Highlighting you is my way of thanking you for participating because it means a great deal to me that you would take time out of your day to read and comment on the discussions. Your opinion is very valuable! Whether it’s agreeing, contradicting, or tangenting. You reacted to the post and that should be highlighted! :p (Like what I did there? Hee hee!)
p.s. I love your thoughts on Peeta!
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Ha ha ha thank you so much!!!! I love these discussions. I’m so glad Rae linked me to your blog, otherwise I’d never have found it! I love her discussions, too. You guys are so good at getting people to talk about books and book-related topics!!
Thank you!!!
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Haha! Rae linked you to my site? Well, I guess I’ll have to go thank her for that bit of kindness! I’m glad you followed me because I enjoy following your blog, as well. I love the controversial topics you discuss which aren’t really appropriate on my site. ^.^
P.s. Do you have Twitter or something to communicate off-blog? If you’d prefer not to, that’s fine too. ^.^ No pressure.
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Yeah, she did! Yeah, I do! I have both Twitter and Facebook!
This is my facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/melodramaticconfessionsofcarlalouise
And my twitter is carlalouise01 🙂 I’d love to communicate off-blog!
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I don’t think you’re following me on Twitter because I can’t DM you. 😦
@NoellBernard
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Following!
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